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 Post subject: Re: Make dead enemies disappear instantly
 Post Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:32 am 
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uni-sol wrote:
you want them to instantly disappear, so that you don't accidentally secure within the seconds it takes for the body to vanish.. so that you can safely pick up the dropped weapon while not being stuck in an animation you never wished to happen.

i think we got it :lol: i think people are simply elaborating on your initial post.


Yeah, this exactly. I don't understand why I'd have to secure someone who can't be revives anyway.

Thought it's understandable in my post and I tried my best to explain it correctly, I'm not a native english speaker :(

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 Post subject: Re: Make dead enemies disappear instantly
 Post Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:42 am 
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its ok, your english is excellent, probably better than mine since i neglect punctuation 99% of the time and im English :lol:

i was just saying that we understood what you meant and that people were going off on a tangent based around what you initially meant, which often happens on a forum.

i also agree, in this situation where revives are disabled there is no real need to secure, perhaps the devs can somehow disallow the secure action for dead pawns on 0 revive servers, if only by server manager choice, or for competition purposes.. no harm in wanting and asking for that :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Make dead enemies disappear instantly
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[Dev]TheTots wrote:
Internally secures can be interrupted, that + the new bleedout system will hopefully make this a lot better.

Can you comment further on the bleedout system?

How does the new bleedout system affect self patching and revives? Thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: Make dead enemies disappear instantly
 Post Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:16 am 
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When you go down you now have limited time you can be revived.

The timing isn't final yet, but imagine something like this:

Headshot - bleed out in 15 seconds
Normal down - bleed out in 45 seconds

Again, just example numbers!

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 Post subject: Re: Make dead enemies disappear instantly
 Post Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:25 am 
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That's an interesting change. It could make revives more acceptable for those who are against it.

What about the tags through the walls? Are they still there?


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 Post subject: Re: Make dead enemies disappear instantly
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[Dev]TheTots wrote:
When you go down you now have limited time you can be revived.

The timing isn't final yet, but imagine something like this:

Headshot - bleed out in 15 seconds
Normal down - bleed out in 45 seconds

Again, just example numbers!


So. Let's say I'm DIRECTLY behind you.
I shoot you in the body.
Revives are off on the server - so ignore the times you just posted.
When you die, you cannot play until the next round.

How long before you body disappears and I can pick up your gun? [This answer should be 0.000000 seconds. Please please please let it be 0. I should be able to shoot, look down, tap f, and run off with your gun.]

Do I need to secure your body to get your gun, EVEN THOUGH you can no longer be revived? [I'm hoping for a no.]


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edit: when revives are ON does each body part make a difference or is it just headshot or not? A few shots to my left foot will kill me in AA, but in real life I'm not going to bleed out as fast at 10 shots to the face.

If I shoot you in the face, you fall down and can be revived for 15 seconds.
If I continue to put a clip in your fallen body will you bleed out faster?

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 Post subject: Re: Make dead enemies disappear instantly
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:46 am 
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Vortex^ wrote:
[Dev]TheTots wrote:
When you go down you now have limited time you can be revived.

The timing isn't final yet, but imagine something like this:

Headshot - bleed out in 15 seconds
Normal down - bleed out in 45 seconds

Again, just example numbers!


So. Let's say I'm DIRECTLY behind you.
I shoot you in the body.
Revives are off on the server - so ignore the times you just posted.
When you die, you cannot play until the next round.

How long before you body disappears and I can pick up your gun? [This answer should be 0.000000 seconds. Please please please let it be 0. I should be able to shoot, look down, tap f, and run off with your gun.]

Do I need to secure your body to get your gun, EVEN THOUGH you can no longer be revived? [I'm hoping for a no.]


Thanks for bringing my thread back to what it was about. Really hoping they will change this ASAP, it's a real pain in competition for me atm..

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If I continue to put a clip in your fallen body will you bleed out faster?


This will bring up all the discussion about incap shooting again.. Will be allowed on some servers, restricted on others, people will get kicked because they are used to doing it etc. Kinda hope they don't make it like that again.

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 Post subject: Re: Make dead enemies disappear instantly
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:49 am 
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Necabo(;.) wrote:
Vortex^ wrote:
[Dev]TheTots wrote:
When you go down you now have limited time you can be revived.

The timing isn't final yet, but imagine something like this:

Headshot - bleed out in 15 seconds
Normal down - bleed out in 45 seconds

Again, just example numbers!


So. Let's say I'm DIRECTLY behind you.
I shoot you in the body.
Revives are off on the server - so ignore the times you just posted.
When you die, you cannot play until the next round.

How long before you body disappears and I can pick up your gun? [This answer should be 0.000000 seconds. Please please please let it be 0. I should be able to shoot, look down, tap f, and run off with your gun.]

Do I need to secure your body to get your gun, EVEN THOUGH you can no longer be revived? [I'm hoping for a no.]


Thanks for bringing my thread back to what it was about. Really hoping they will change this ASAP, it's a real pain in competition for me atm..


Oh trust me, I've complained about this probably every pub and comp game I've ever played.

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 Post subject: Re: Make dead enemies disappear instantly
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Oh trust me, I've complained about this probably every pub and comp game I've ever played.


Never bothered me on public tbh because it rarely happened, not even on comp but I recently picked up the sniper for my team so when I'm in close combat this happens alot to me (might gonna link a stream highlight from todays match just as example because people posting in this thread originally didn't understand what I was talking about). Also never used this forum so maybe this was posted at some time already.

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 Post subject: Re: Make dead enemies disappear instantly
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Necabo(;.) wrote:
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Oh trust me, I've complained about this probably every pub and comp game I've ever played.


Never bothered me on public tbh because it rarely happened, not even on comp but I recently picked up the sniper for my team so when I'm in close combat this happens alot to me (might gonna link a stream highlight from todays match just as example because people posting in this thread originally didn't understand what I was talking about). Also never used this forum so maybe this was posted at some time already.

[mod edit - TOS violation]

I haven't seen it on the forums before.

I always have an extra gun on me because swapping is faster than reloading. If there's a chance to pick one up, I will.

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