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 Post subject: Re: Questions on a new build.
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:27 pm 
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Here's another question so correct me if I'm wrong:

Most motherboards come with standard or "native" memory speeds of 1333 or so. Since I am getting DDR3 2133's, I assume I have to XMP the BIOS to match up the memory speed. So is that considered "over-clocking" my memory hence the 2133(OC) on the MB data sheet?

I am really getting ichy to start the order, and the wife gave me the green light ;)

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you can check each mobo's ram compatibility.. most new mobo's will support that speed.. you'll be fine... whats the latency on the ram?

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 Post subject: Re: Questions on a new build.
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=IK=Doba= wrote:
you can check each mobo's ram compatibility.. most new mobo's will support that speed.. you'll be fine... whats the latency on the ram?


Cas Latency: 9
Timing: 9-9-9-24
I think that's the lowest I can find for 2133.

Should I sacrifice latency for speed. They have DDR3 1600 at 7 but it would be 4 modules for 16GB instead of the 2. I plan to over-clock some things but in small steps.

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 Post subject: Re: Questions on a new build.
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Gotta search.. They say Latency>speed .. I went with 1600 with a 7 latency over the 9 2133

im only running 8gig though .. no need for more

the difference is probably unnoticeable

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 Post subject: Re: Questions on a new build.
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=IK=Doba= wrote:
Gotta search.. They say Latency>speed .. I went with 1600 with a 7 latency over the 9 2133

im only running 8gig though .. no need for more

the difference is probably unnoticeable


I read that the difference between 1600 to 1866 is unnoticeable but from 1600 to 2133 can be as much as 10%.

The reason for 2 x 8GB (16GB) is that I am assuming as with all my builds that I will eventually have to upgrade to more ram. (Thinking 4 years ahead of now and another 2-3 Window upgrades like Windows 12). So having that much ram while just using the 2 channels should be less of a load on the modules.

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by then I expect DDR4 or 5 might be in use.. who knows.. its up to you.. either way you cant go wrong.. my ram is working great so far.. would I notice any difference with faster ram? realistically no

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 Post subject: Re: Questions on a new build.
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DDR4 is out but like $600 for 8GB I think.

What's funny is that I looked at my receipts for this old machine and I have the Corsair XMS2 800 CL5... LOOOOOL

...and you keep making me flip back to neweeg so now I'm looking at the Raidmax Cobra Case ???

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 Post subject: Re: Questions on a new build.
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You are aware that 2011 is the enthusiast/pro platform?
Quad channel memory, 40 PCI-e lanes and a bunch of other stuff thats pure overkill on a gaming rig.
Paired with a single midrange video card its a funny gaming rig.

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frankof wrote:
You are aware that 2011 is the enthusiast/pro platform?
Quad channel memory, 40 PCI-e lanes and a bunch of other stuff thats pure overkill on a gaming rig.
Paired with a single midrange video card its a funny gaming rig.


I don't consider a GTX 960 2GB SSC a midrange card. I have a 750 Ti SC now and can get a steady 75FPS with jumps to 100 at 1920x1080 with Minecraft (as a benchmark since Java is a resource hog). Depending on what FPS I do get on the new build I may get a 2nd GPU and go the SLI way a few months from now. Or do the option of waiting until the GTX X is under $100 in 2 or 3 years.

I'm trying to build something that's going to last me at least 8 years without serious upgrades. The one I have now will be 9 years old this December. I have only upgraded it twice. 3 years ago for another 4GB of mem and last year to dump the old GT8600 for the GTX 750.

I need:
CPU $300
GPU $200
MB $200
MEM $125
PSU $50
Case $50
(no HDD's, DVD's, mouse, keyboard, or monitor is needed)

I have ~$925 as a budget, so what would you guys build with that to get me to the 8 year mark?

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 Post subject: Re: Questions on a new build.
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I have ~$925 as a budget, so what would you guys build with that to get me to the 8 year mark?


me? i would likely dedicate more budget for the GPU, after literally scouring an absolute months worth of reviews, how to's, hardware guides, tutorials, gaming forums and tech sites.. most people say its better to spend the most on a good GPU, than literally any other part.

8 years is a long, long time in terms of how often tech is replaced with new better performing tech.. in the next 8 years we could be flying cars.

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